so god let 10 million people die in world war 2 but was too busy to help....what kind of diety does this!
if i was god i would have done something .
If you believe that the bible is true, god did intervene in human history, the flood story because man was wicked, the exodus story freeing his people from oppression of the Egyptians, and many other times to help his chosen people.
Then for some reason he stopped or these events are myths and fables made up by humans to make their god seem to be real .
so god let 10 million people die in world war 2 but was too busy to help....what kind of diety does this!
if i was god i would have done something .
Very true, I recently visited Auschwitz and birkenau, where more than 1.1 million men women and children were exterminated just because they were Jewish, gay, gypsies and even some jws and no god came to their assistance it was other humans who came to their assistance.
rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
Seabreeze
Existence comes from non-existence
2. Order comes from Chaos
3. Life comes from non-life
4. Personal comes from the non-personal
5. Reason comes from non-reason
6. Morality comes from matter.
If you take off your god glasses and do some independent research into these statements you will be able to find experts with PhDs in the the subjects that will fill in or give honest information and evidence, rather than relying on the god of the gaps excuses.
rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
Seabreeze
@Duran
Earlier in this thread I invited a poster to google non-biblical sources for the life of Jesus. Doing that will reveal over 100 sources from Romans, Jews, Greeks, and other Secular documents. Did you do that? Why not? Is it the fact that historians can completely reconstruct the primary events of Jesus' life including his death, and resurrection from these non-biblical sources?
Not sure if it was directed at me ,I did have a look but failed to find any independently verified eyewitness accounts of a miracle worker called jesus. Not even the gospels are eyewitness accounts written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events.
I also have asked you many times to provide independently verified evidence of a miracle worker called jesus and you keep avoiding providing any.
Why do religions and belief systems also worship or have trinity beliefs eg Hinduism, ancient Egyptian religion, buddhism, zoroastrianism, and others, some of which predates christianity?
Following the thread no one has provided any definite evidence that there version of jesus being part of a trinity or that he is a individual creation of a god, it's all seems to be upto personal interpretation ot scriptures and regarding which version of christianity they believe in.
Both beliefs can't be right ,but they both can be wrong.
pp.
14-19 just some quote and a few comments from me, very, very repetitious.
the gb seems to think that the rank and file came up the years 1914, 1925, 1975, generation (70-80 years from 1914=1994), overlapping generations.
Governing body masters of spiritual gaslighting always have been and always will be.
all christians: you don't have all of the bible (complete 88 books) yet, so can you have "all .
all truth!
" (see john 16:13).
File under fiction along with all the other supposed holy books.
rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
@seabreeze
Of course it matters, you need to provide undeniable evidence that a miracle worker called jesus was a real person, because if he is a fictional character and the events that he is supposed to have performed including raising himself from the dead are fictional also ,their would be no trinity belief because its all make believe .
Or you know deep down that there is no verified evidence that the jesus character was nothing but a apocalyptic preacher who was killed by the Romans the end, and the rest is mythical.
rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
Seabreeze
It's for you to provide the undeniable evidence of a miracle worker called jesus, us atheist/ heretics cant provide evidence for a fictional character and events, its not our responsibility to provide it,
It's for you to provide, and you have failed to do so even though you have been asked to provide it many times,and please not the minimal facts argument.
rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
You would think that a all knowing god who supposedly inspired the bible would have defined himself clearly and in a unambiguous manner ,instead of in a confusing manner that has had and still having people debating if he is a single god with a created son or three persons in one where they are all equal..
Both versions can't be right but they can both be wrong.
(apologies for the typo in the title.
"teaching" should read "teachings".
i misread vanderhoven7's most recent post as being the above.
That religions are a snare and a racket.
That is the only thing that jws got spot on.
Religion and its teachings are there to control manipulate and coerce people to believe in fictional characters and events and to take people's time and money.
